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Comic likes and dislikes?

Journal Entry: Wed Aug 24, 2011, 12:21 AM
What initially attracts you to a comic?  What are some themes or tropes you LIKE to see?

What about things that you don't like?  Has there ever been anything (font, names, characters, etc) that has made you want to stop reading a comic?  Any comic?

I'd love to know!





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0palite Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2014  Student General Artist
i really like continuous comics instead of just strips

good art is always a plus

the main thing i look for in a comic tho is that it's easy to navigate; if theres a place i can go with a masterpost of every single page it's always super helpful
also comics on deviantart kinda push me away if they dont have a link to the very first page on every subsequent one
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o0Risa0o Featured By Owner May 24, 2012  Student General Artist
What I really don't like about a comic is the cliches

Like good and evil people?
Like that Princess mononoke movie, no one was really good or bad. Every character there had their bad and good sides, like in real life.

The designs of the character, Relationships, and their personality.
when there's a couple going on in a comic, I hate to see how quick and cliche of how they become a couple. which draws me away real quick.

The designs of the characters, I never really liked how they all looked the same when only the pelt color s different. for example, two wolves. One can have a longer muzzle or bigger feet, less fur or more fluffy, how they carry themselves are dominantly or submissively or aggressively. don't only make the pelt colors original, make the wolf of how they make themselves a individual.

Personality
you can't just make a stereotype out of it. Like one has a violent nature, the other is so kind you won't see her hurt a fly. Gosh that's so bad.

Speech bubbles
I like to see some originality on speech bubbles. like the speech bubbles on Off-white. not the same old white background bubbles and using the same old font all the time. and put some expressions into too, like having spikes around it the character is shouting.

Art style
I don't really care much about the art, but if your aiming at a good art quality comic. Don't slack or let anyone tell you to work faster. Quality is better than umm... in-quality? lolz

The time of day of course, one of the things I really hate about a movie is that so much has only happened in two damn days. that's why I prefer episode series, they don't just happened all at once.

These are my thoughts
even if this journal was like last year, but I just wanna say ^^
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ElyFlycorn Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2012
For me the two most important things are:
-the plot, I must like it and it must be interesting
-characters personality and the relationship between all the characters of the story, this is the MOST important thing!

If the story has this two things, I generally can turn a blind eye on the art/style, but if I also like the art/style then the comic is almost perfect=)
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Black-Platinum Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2011
The biggest thing that draws me to any comic is the art/style. If its drawn well, I can be very forgiving when it comes to a lot of other things. I like sketchy or slightly cartoony styles the best. I have refused a lot of Marvel and DC because I hate the style that most of them are drawn in. I don't know why, I just do, lol.

Good, strong character development is another thing I love.

Its gotta have a good plot. I also love it when a person can give a good twist to a cliche.

Quirky characters are the best.

Ok, for the stuff I hate:

When someone is making a comic that is such an obvious copy of another. Hate it. Its hard to be original, but at least try.

Anytime someone makes a few pages and then just stops. Especially when its a great story. I know life gets busy, but that just annoys me to no end.

When a comic starts out with a prologue that is nothing but pages of text.

When the author tries too hard to be different. So much so that they end up being the exact same as every other person who's trying to be "unique" and "different" (if that makes sense).

Oh, and my favorite, when they write an animal comic and kill off all the humans because they all start wars for absolutely no reason and blah blah blah, so they died off and left the world to the wolves (or whatever other animal) who are much more deserving of ruling the planet. Then they begin to tell the story of wolf pack A being at war with wolf pack B.
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tatiilange Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
wow, you really know how to explain yourself!
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MizukiSeya Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2011
do you do comisions?
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Keaze Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2011
An original style (but not too original, if you know what I mean), fun characters and facial expressions, character relationships.
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amethystartist83 Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2011
Can onlu really say what attracts me to a comic
-complex characters
-good plot going on
-excellent storytelling
-fantastic visuals
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Chibifoxxylady Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2011  Student General Artist
- The art,
- The initial personality of the characters,
- The storyline, which kind of ties in with:
- The pace of the comic, and
- Use of boxes and organization of pages

These are the things I look for (in order) when I pick up a comic, whether it be about some well known and favored hero, or some obscure antagonist in another dimension. I really like to see the characters have a lot of interaction with their environment. I notice all the little details, and I enjoy them.
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LannVouivre Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
There are two things that have bothered me so much that I quit reading a comic or two were storyline and lack of distinction between who's saying what.

One comic had a really, really weird and confusing storyline with characters making extremely irrational decisions for the sake of the plot. The other wouldn't show which dialogue is from which character, which is so awful if there are three or more characters talking.
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HaughtyFlaki Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
My greatest concern with comics is when the main character turns out to be a transposition of what the author believe to / would like to be. It's ok to put something of ourselves in a character, but there is a limit.

I also dislike when people try to focus the attention to the main character/s with confusing panels messing up the whole page.

And I really, really like variety. One thing that always bothered me is how in some mangas or USA comics characters are, basically, all the same, or have the same body structure (call me ignorant but without the face I can't distinguish Batman from Captain America). Human beings are different from each other, they have a lot of ethnic groups that rarely are portrayed (same with animals). A great comic imo should have at least a couple of ethnic groups or a wide range of body and facial structures.
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Bluari Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
comic in a form of art much wider than single artworks. every time I see a new interesting comic here on dA I'm curious what the artist came up with, plot, characters, ideas. somehow I can imagine how that would look as a movie, animation. I feel so disapointed lately about new animated movies in cinemas xp. at least comics gives me a little bit of that thrill...

Things I don't like..... nope, I've read too little to know xp. But I think a comic must be original and any extraordinary things must have good explanation in the story. Everything must be credible.
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VisceralFae Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2011  Student Digital Artist
I'm mostly just really tried of cliche main character personalities. The dumb yet clever main hero, normally male. Then the mega-bitch girl who is also sweet and the main character has loooved forever. This shows up in amine a lot and I think thats because these writers are always men, whom do not know anything about how girls act in real life.
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Katy500 Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Things I like on a comic:
-> Charactes. Good characters. Whit personality, whit feelings, whit story. You know, a character that you can imagine that it can come alive. Even if it is a "sparkle-dog" or something like that. I don't really mind abour the fact that the character's design is "un-real". Actualy, I like that tipe of things. I draw them myself. More that 65% of my characters have un-real colors, like blue, red, green, etc, etc... xD
-> The story-line. A good story-line is fundamental to a comic. Of course I prefer original stories, but the cliché stories are cool too! The"guy that is the only one that can save the world of beeing domitated by the darkness" never dies to me xD
-> HUMOR. I love comics whit humor! And I almost don't see anyone whit it! That's bad, because humor can trasform the cliché story in somethig more unique and original ^^ That's whit I'm doing a comic whit humor. My comic in not really a cliché. I mean, the main character is something like a "choosen one". Well, not really a choosen one, she is a reencarnation of a "goodness" and she has born whit tons of power, but before she can save her world, she has to prove that she can actually do it. And.... she is not really going to save her world. She is going to make all the animals species forget their past in war whit each other so that they can all be friends again and that they can save the world all together. and I think I'm contradicting myself ^^; I just want to say that my "cliché story" is not that cliché ^^;
-> Action. I just love action :D
-> Fantasy. If you want to be teteported to inside the comic, the fantasy comics are the best. At least, that's my opinion ^^;

Things I don't like:
-> People who make comics just to be famous. That comics are BAD. Because the author don't give a sh*it for the story-line or the characters, but for the number of people that are readig the comic.

Things I don't mind:
-> The art. I don't mind if the artist is an awesome artist and the pages are amazingly done, whit a lot of details, etc, etc... (like yours ^^) or if the drawings are not the bests, if there are some mistakes whit the characters anatomy or whit the backgrounds (like mine ^^;) If the story is good, then the comic is good ^^

Well, I think it's all.
/End of huge comment.
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redcoatcat Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
Unrealistic story lines and concepts. I grow tired of 'evil empires' vs 'the good or persecuted characters'
Real world is filled with shades of grey and there never is an easy solution.
I'm not saying it's bad it just doesn't keep my attention. I want realistic and complex characters in a world I can identify with but then I rarely read fiction so that may show my taste. :\
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sindos Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Uhm.
I haven't made my mind about it in a organized way… let's try
Things that may convince me:
:bulletblue: I can see character IN the character. It's better when you can see coherent behaviour.
:bulletblue: visual logic. I like it when my mind doesn't have to work too hard on they follow up of the vignettes (don't let them start with arrows!), where the eyes flow naturally on the enviroment and don't jump from "her face-his face" frames.

I can say I refuse to start reading when:
:bulletred: the names sound silly or copied. At least the tendency of naming characters like badass ponies (Salty Water, Messy Tuft…) is receding.
:bulletred: It does not revolve around school. I loved attending myself, but people have serious issues with creating schools and students: how hard is to be the underdog, having a crush…
:bulletred: ONLY YOU CAN SAVE US ALL. Seriously.

But anyway… these aren't rules… is like, add the art, the artist, if someone recommended it… it's all in the telling. I always use The Vampire Chronicles as an example. If you read the synopsis of The Vampire Lestat… hell, it sounds like one cliche after another and no plot whatsoever, but the way she tells it makes it delicious :meow:
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FefaGriffin Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
The only thing that makes me stop following a comic is bad drawing =s
If the drawing is to confusing, I can't undestand what is going on >.<
But you are no the case, your drawing are soo good! hehe
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mooing-duckerberry Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
The art, before anything else, is a deciding factor. If the characters are skewed in one panel, and they all keep switching heights, and somehow the lightsource changes from panel to panel, even though nobody changed positions... Yeah, no good. I won't read those.

On to character development: ALL characters need flaws. I love it when the wise, powerful, mentor character has their own issue(s), instead of being introduced as the all-knowing force of good who for some odd reason never does anything action-based. Likewise, all characters need positive traits. Your villain needs a motive, and it's best if it's at least a warped version of a morally sound idea. A character nobody relates to is no good. Balance in all things...
I like to think of ratios. Your main character should be... more than half good. (any less, and he's a jerk, and everyone hates to read about them). The remaining space should be flaws, or at least conflicted ideals. The villain should be relatable, but never more than half good. If the villain surpasses the main character in moral standing, that's a big issue, and the plotline had better be switched pretty quickly.
(Sidenote: I have yet to find a very well-written comic where you are initially introduced to the villian as the main character. I think it would be an excellent device.. if you followed the bad guy around for a few chapters, and started to agree with their way of thinking, and then had to learn to like the hero. It would be very hard to write though, so it's understandable that it wouldn't come up).

Anything else?
... details are nice. Scenes from day-to-day living that don't necessarily have to do with the plot. Not too much of course, but it's nice to see the brave warrior folding socks once in a while. Maybe putting dried flowers on the wall of an empty house, or giving a character a scar that DOESN'T have a heart-wrenching backstory.
I'm partial to mutiple species being incorprated into comics, just for the artistic diversity. I wish that they didn't all think so simlarly though. A lion will always have a different view of the world than a deer, or a human, or even another cat.
Last personal preference: I love traditional media, simply because it's becoming less common... maybe because it's less "perfect?" I dunno. I feel like you get to know the artists better when you can see pencil strokes, but that's more of a bonus point than an actual deciding factor for reading a story.
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SaryTheWolf Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The art and type of characters/world the story is set in, is what usally grabs my atention at first, then it's mostly about the story, I love a good story. I tend to look at comics with furry and/or fantisy type elaments to them. I've seen some storys (comic or otherwise) with too much pointless fighting and/or hardship, theses disintrest me. Once I'm into the comic the story is really the most inpertent thing, I can overlook slip ups and problems with the art if the story is good but I'm unlikly to bother looking at such comics in the first place becuase of the lake of interesting art to grab my atention.
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Falcolf Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Professional Filmographer
The first thing I really, really like to see more than anything in a comic visually to start with is a bubble style that's easy on the eyes and a text font that also works. I figure that if I'm reading something, it had better work with the art around it and it had better be appealling. I've found that if the font isn't good, I'm not as interested. This is what draws me in second, right after the art. The art has to be somewhat appealing and have a sense of unity. The characters can't slip off model or it becomes difficult telling who is who. Every character should be distinct, at least in some way. :)

After that, what I really like is just seeing comics that look really unified and tied together, like Plaguedog's Gidarah. I really like Gidarah because everything really feels like it's been pulled together and with the style of it, characters like Tam who have crazy blue and green hair/fur become believable. There's just something really pleasant about looking at one of her pages. Something, maybe the texture just soothes the senses, and says 'It's okay, read along.' to which my eyes happily reply 'okay!' Many new comics are jarringly colourful or just awkward. Comics that have a good colour palette that inspires emotion and where you can tell that there was thought put into the art seem to work better for me. :)

My favourite comics are yours, The Meek, Hanna is Not A Boy's Name, Lackadaisy, Gidarah, Off-White, Wurr and Son of the Philosopher. Son of the Philosopher by Neikoish is interesting, because her backgrounds are extremely simple, yet the story is very good and you're paying so much attention to the characters and what they're doing and saying that you barely notice the simplicity of the backgrounds, which to me proves that the most important thing over all is story, which is why I think that having good typography is so vitally important, because half the time you're looking at that, not the characters. :) That, and a nice sense of flow in the panels makes me happeh. :aww:
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Nightdoodles Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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I like pweety colors :iconimhighplz:
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zebraBird Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011
I'll read anything with an interesting plot or characters (cough currently reading 70) but if the font is hard to read, or it changes color inconsistently then I will not read it.
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Roachguts Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Student General Artist
Heh, I could probably write an essay on this. But I'm gonna keep it short.

One thing I really like in a graphic novel is design. For instance, a cover that grabs you instantly, effective typography and lettering, bold chapter title pages and a cool-ass back cover and blurb. The lettering is particularly essential. Comic sans can typically go die in a hole, as can a great deal of fonts people use for their mediocre webcomics. Sound effects are tricky ground, and with a lot of comics I've read it looks awkward and artificial.
One particularly amazing graphic novel I've read is Blacksad, and the lettering looks like it's been inked instead of typed. It looks completely natural.
It's a very extremely cool novel anyway, I highly recommend it.

I share a lot of peeves with all these other commenters as well. I could complain to no end :dummy:
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Dust502 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I like to see fresh new takes on over done ideas.
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Grassy-Aggron Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
My biggest like is having the hero character turn evil and having the others watch his/her fall into darkness. It doesn't happen often, but if it can be done well...(I, for one, would love a well thought out comic about Sonic the Hedgehog where he goes evil. I have yet to find one.)

A huge dislike is...Bright, tiny font on a dark background. Nothing says "eye bleed" like that. NOTHING.

Oh, and the cliche "bring you back to life from the dead through the power of love" or "beat him with the power of teamwork" crap. The first speaks for itself how horrible it is, and the second...C'mon, you're not strong enough to beat him yourself? How about you not even SAY that? Working together works, but when it's overly gungho for it...Geh...
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athena102 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
well it has to either be well drawn or the cartoon has to fix the comic. and its really cliche but lesbianism attracts me to them also and women power
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AVMysterrie Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I have to say that I am definitely drawn in by the art first. When I look at a comic that's from a blossoming artist, I can accept their mistakes and growth but honestly I found a comic like yours first because the art is beautiful.

However, I am a sucker for the plot. It has to lead me somewhere every other page or so otherwise I just can't get into it. If a prologue is too long I get antsy.

I have to agree with a few others that the dates between uploads is a key. I know sometimes artists don't have all the time in the world, but I honestly get lost and have to backtrack. It doesn't necessarily turn me off but it gets tedious because I like to be able to remember without going back and having the newest page ruined because I see something i just don't get.

Characters need to act naturally. I hate feeling like I need to love this good guy when his attitude makes me hate him. Plus, I think characters shouldn't just come out of nowhere and be completely different. I understand character growth but it needs to be done right.

So overall art, upload time, and flow is very important to me and if done wrong turn me off.
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WorstCase-Scenario Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011
Bullshit will make me stop reading any comic. (Depends on the degree of course.) I am completely willing to suspend my disbelief, but when things don't make sense with in the story's own world I get irritated. For example, some super heroine who does ridiculous amounts of exercise who has rather large breasts or costumes that just don't work (now if the character starts with this preposterous costume but then suffers the consequences, that's pretty cool). Also, excessive fan service and references to pop culture.
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Jeakilo Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm not too sure about how much I can say; I try to stay really open minded when I see a new comic pop up. Nothing really "grabs my attention" - if it turns up in my inbox, I'm likely to go read it. I also don't drop a comic for any reason - if I start reading a comic and find myself hating it, I'm probably still not going to stop. I'll keep reading it so I have a clear list of what I dislike about it, and so I can (as a comic artist myself) learn from what I believe are their "mistakes".
Of course just in general if I were to walk into a book/comic store, If it has an animal on the cover (or in the title) I always pick it up xD

For animal comics though, I think my biggest pet peeve by is when animal comics are way too human in terms of what they do with their environment. For example, theres a few comics on here where the animals live in houses. That bugs me - how did they build them? Why would an animal even build an elaborate house anyway?
Basically when comics (any comic genre really) go against the tone they try to set.
I can't count how many times I've become frustrated with comics because they are trying to be "realistic" but the animals have say, collars, jewlery, etc for no reason other than the creator added them to their design. If it has some symbalance in the story, sure. Or if the story is VERY fantasy and magical, sure! But if someone is clearly trying to have a realistic comic, but one of the characters has an earring, it just ruins the tone.
Of course, just an example. I could list dozens of things like this xD

Besides that, pacing is my biggest annoyance with comics. Ive read some that had over 50 pages, which is awesome because large page count = more than 5 minutes of entertainment. But the problem comes when after 50 pages, literally nothing has happened. I think the only time I've ever just stopped reading a comic was because 45-50 pages in, all that had happened was a cat had walked around inside a house.

Last, short thing. TEXT PROLOGUES. When I see a prologue to a comic that is 5+ pages of all text, all I want to do is ask the author "are you sure you dont want to write books instead of comics?" I never read prologues to a comic if it's all text - I always skip it.
Also in GENERAL prologues annoy me if they're too long. I hate when comics have entire chapters dedicated to prologue. A good comic author can weave things into the comic itself- you don't need to spend 10+ pages telling me all about the world! Show me in the comic itself!
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fyra007 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
good question...i like animal comics,comics that has some magic or some special story to tell...like yours!

but i dont like humans comics...
i dont like when it looks like a normal life or that doesnt have an adventure with action...
i dont care for the names...only when they dont make sense with the characters in the story....
he comic interests me if it begins with something special , fun or strange!
i look the titles too...if it goes with the story

nothing more...

o...and im going to do one comic too!
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dedicatedfollower467 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Student Digital Artist
Turn-ons:
CHARACTERS! The things I love, I love because they have incredible characters and excellent interaction between those characters. I'm first attracted by the image of a character, and then stay because that character has a great personality, either because they are hilarious, or troubled, or lovable. Any kind of exciting character can attract me, but it is always character first!
Second is art. Highly refined artwork convinces me to read and hooks me into a story. In fact, if the art is not good, the author has to work extra hard to get me to read. I love beautiful artwork and carefully planned layouts.

Turn-offs:
Disrespect of a character I like. When a character I like is glossed over, not given the development he or she deserves, or is killed off in a way that, to me, seems to insult the character, I get mad at the author.
Disrespecting the fans. When comics authors (especially people in big companies like DC and Marvel) toy with fan emotions, lead us on, or suddenly give up on a story, I feel like my feelings have been ignored. Like these people don't care about their audience. I usually stop reading after that.

Additional notes:
Unlike most people, I am not turned off by a cliche storyline. You can tell me the same story (the Chosen One prophesied to save the world through special magic!) a million times and I will never stop reading as long as the characters are interesting. Granted, interesting plots often thrill me, but those trite, over-used storylines don't bother me at all!
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Clockworkquark Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011
I find myself reading a lot of comics lotsa people hate because I like some pretty cliche tropes.

Hero from earth saving a fantasy world is used a ton, but I still like it. Dragons rock. I like a mythical ancient weapon of awesome more than I should, but not always. Super nice characters in the main cast break the cynical ice around my heart in a good way. Nullification powers, anti-magic-ers, and unsorcerers are all super fun. I'll read almost anything with (an) anti-villain(s), a sympathetic/turncoat member of a villainous race/family/group, or subverted necromancers/undead/zombies. Subverted chosen ones are great, as are badass normals. Amnesia'd protagonists are probably my guiltiest pleasure, especially if they turn out to be villains and/or not human. I'll also read most anything with a good transgendered character, and appreciate solid LGBT characters though thats kinda unrelated.

Turn-offs. Biggest one is an asshole protagonist. I can stand them sometimes, but almost always I'll like a comic in spite of a jerk main character rather than because. Religious themes or dichotomous morality make me uncomfortable and if it's too central I'll probably stop altogether. Similarly, when there's strong values dissonance, or the author/main character comes off preachy or judgmental, I might stop. Basically, an annoying main character, or a main character that everybody likes/agrees with too easily is the most likely to make me stop reading. Other than that... Revenge as a theme, cliche epic histories and mythologies that get infodumped in, witty one-liners (and "badass" violence), overdramatic themes, wholesale LotR-style elves and dwarves, stilted (especially fantasy, oh god) speech patterns (Ye Olde Buthcherede Englishe), names lifted from mythology, and mysteeerious heterochromia all are minus 90% of the time, too.

Whew, lotsa text. Interesting prompt!
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akeli Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011   General Artist
Jerk main characters are my pet peeve too! :/ They can be done right (like House), but it's rare. I admit, I like some cliche stories too. :D It just depends on how over-the-top they are.
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MystykNess Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hmm... well, first things first, I think the art is important. Sure, it's not necessary to the plotline or anything like that, but it helps to 1.) draw people to your comic and 2.) more importantly, you can have a serious scene without people cracking up all over the place. I feel horrible laughing at comics/manga/etc when a character dies because the art isn't good quality. OTL;; I even had this sort of incidence once, I had a scene where one of my characters got thrown backwards and crashed into another. But I couldn't draw motion properly, so... it looked like some sort of rape scene. *sobsobsob* That scene has since been deleted anyways. Hahaha.
To me, it doesn't matter if it's not horribly original if it's enjoyable. I mean, yes, originality is important, and ripping off other stories is not cool, but if it's enjoyable, I don't mind if they're similar (such as Tokyo Mew Mew and Sailor Moon. And other various magical girl series.)
I don't think putting... what's the word, veiwpoints? Opinions? Morals? I dunno, but like... I don't think it's a good idea to throw controversial things all over the place in comics. Maybe a scene here and there where a character contemplates their veiws, or the veiws of another, but if all of the characters are like... hardcore pro-choice, for example, then... that'll probably drive people with opposing veiws away. I'd just get frustrated with a series that strongly opposed my veiws all around. Hahaha. I'd have to stop reading it for blood pressure's sake. But I think it's okay if characters disagree on the matter and strongly voice their own opinions, as long as both sides are given equal voice. :/
Grammar and spelling, of course. Thankfully these are usually easy fixes. I really hate when people use a word incorrectly, though. Hahaha.
Character diversity is also really important. If all your characters are pretty much the same with only hair color, eye color and likes and dislikes being different, you have a problem. Give characters weird quirks (such as my character Gabriel, who likes ketchup on his sushi.). And yeah, it's hard to come up with a ton of different personalities, but it isn't impossible. Shugo Chara was a good example of that. Although, all their faces look the same...
You can tell I like anime, huh? XD
And cliched plots are totally cool as long as they're executed well.
And I dislike it when people make things super conveinent for their characters. For example, what I did originally with my comic. "Oh yeah, apparently we have super powers. Main character doesn't have a clue. Secondary character has figured it out due to something that happened on like, page 5 or something. One of the other characers is like, oh yeah, this has been happening, it must be this. And the other two were like, oh yeah, I can do this.". XD; There was actually a reason they were like that, with only the main character being clueless, but even so, it's frustrating for readers (including myself). I'm really glad I've redone my series, like, four times. OTL.
The start of a story is also important. If you start it out with something casual, like a character waiting somewhere for another, that's an alright start. But it's better if you can pull out immense interest right away. I can't really give examples, cuz it depends on the story. Yay for referring to the general public as the second person. *woot woot*.
Humor is good, but not necessary. Romance depends. I only enjoy romance if I've found the couple absolutely adorable... I generally don't like stories that are focused on romance all by themselves unless they're fanfictions of other stories that have already got my affection for the pairing.
Something kinda irrelevant that I dislike... no, strongly dislike in professional works is when on the cover of every single manga, its a portrait of the main character. On every single one. That gets really old, really fast. Ugh.
I also hate weeaboo characters. SOB.
And jumbled frame set-up. I used to have this problem a ton, because I happened to be reading Kamichama Karin Chu at the time. I'm gonna get killed by fangirls, but I don't recommend that one. Not sure if Koge-Donbo (or whatever she's called now) or Del Rey is to blame for that.
Mmm, not sure how to conclude this. Heh. |D
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AddictionHalfWay Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011
An interesting premise gets me to pick it up and a unique storyline and natural-feeling (personality wise, could care less about their colorations) characters. Also if it's fucking readable. Dogs ([link](manga) ) is interesting with fun characters but I read like 10 chapters of it and STILL didn't know what the fuck.

A good example of an interesting premise & good characters is the manga (not anime) Kuroshitsuji. The storylines are mixed and interesting as well, some of which I honestly can't guess the endings of so you can actually talk with your friends about the aspects of mystery and what you think is going on. That's a huge plus.
Dengeki Daisy caught me on more or less the same thing; fun sounding characters and a fun premise (it's about a girl that talks to her mysterious guardian named Daisy over a cellphone her now dead brother gave her)


What has turned me off a comic? Unnaturally spoken dialog, when people put an immense priority on beauty over everything else (I think beauty/art has a priority but not at the sacrifice of everything else!). Like Teahouse (yaoi comic) is a gorgeously colored comic but I never feel like the creators are sacrificing characters, panels or dialog in spending so much time on its beauty.

Again, if I don't know what the fuck as in the case of Dogs: Bullets & Carnage I stop reading it. A webcomics example of that is probably DOOR/Toilet Genie since that started out pretty sweet before it took the looney train to nonsenseland.
Another example of a webcomic that I fell out of interest with was Paradox (a yaoi comic) after me and my friends realized that the story had gotten off track like 200 pages ago and all the characters acted and talked the same way :'C



I don't know if I can give any animal examples for likes or dislikes. I kind of just don't like any of them but they all have their unique reasons for that. Be it dialog, the wrong priorities, a stupid-as-fuck premise or storyline or uninteresting characters. I think the best way to describe the animal comics community would be as "amateur" even by webcomic standards.
Webcomics being of course generally an "amateur" category of comics so animal comics are the amateurs of amateurs. Weird stuff.


I think my favorite webcomic right now is Yaoi Tales: The Little Mermaid (shounen-ai story, gawd I read so much gay stuff xD) which is the obvious spin on the little mermaid. I've seen a looooot of spins on the little mermaid among other fairy tales as well but this one really shines through. While the characters keep the disney names (Eric, Ariel, Sebastian, etc) the character dialog and personalities are all the webcomic's own and are very nicely developed. The story is probably going to end in the obvious disney way but at the same time, there is no villain (the Ursala character isn't very villainous) and the development of the characters is a story in itself so while I know there's likely going to be a "happily ever after" I am constantly wondering what the characters will do next. And in a romance-based comic I find that the development is the really interesting story opposed to the actual plot.
So it meets my standards for "Awesome" I suppose xD And while it is long, it hasn't gotten side-tracked like other webcomics I've read.
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Lyrak Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Biggest thing that's a turnoff for me is a font that's either too fancy or too small to read. Keep it simple and you're good. :)

As for tropes, I dunno. It depends on the story I guess. It's not so much the tropes but how they're used that draws me.

Usually when I look for a comic, I'll wander a few pages, see if I like where it's going, and decide whether or not to follow from there. Like, I have one Lion King fancomic I follow where the translation is a bit rough, and the art isn't always as "clean" and "finished" as I like for comics, but the story is so engaging that it overtakes all else. There are others that have amazing art... but within the first few pages I'm either bored or confused so I stop reading.

Character development is win. I love properly developed characters, stories that build upon them and either show us who they are, or make them who they are.

Basically, getting out of character and having fonts I can't read are the quickest ways to get me to stop reading.
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Animus-Panthera Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
I'm the kind of reader who is usually more interested in a good story than good art- unless the art is bad enough to interfere with understanding/enjoying the story, I usually don't mind what the art is like. I have on occasion started a really beautifully drawn comic and then discovered I just wasn't interested enough to go on. (It's sort of like, a pretty face alone isn't enough.)

Other than that, I tend to enjoy more action/adventure type comics, especially fantasy ones, or sometimes comedy or satire. I don't like slapstick humor so much, more things like wordplay and visual tricks. I like the occasional good romance so long as it's not too sappy- I like them to be a little more realistic. In general I don't like comics that stretch my willing suspension of disbelief too far; things can be fantasy and totally impossible in this world, but when a comic breaks it's own canon's rules it bothers me a lot.
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WolfSong-of-Dragon Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I love good art and an interesting, engaging plot line, especially if it pulls you in right up front. I really hate whiny, annoying, emo characters that do nothing but complain and long, drawn-out romances. I don't hate romance, but when it's like ''I like him... and I think he likes me... but I'm not going to say anything, just in case... but I like him SO much..." It's SO annoying. My opinion, of course. :3 Oh, and good bad guys are definitely important. Well, not GOOD, but you know what I mean. So far you're comics been great! Glad I can read it.
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sparkpaw Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
To sum it up as best as I can;

~Good art AND Good story-line. You can have GREAT art and a crap story line and it holds no interest- and vice versa.

~Background into the story. Whether it's the way you do it- where there's background being uncovered every page, or how *WolfPearl does it, and describes characters in the comments we will likely never meet again; having a foundation and background to EVERYTHING helps TREMENDOUSLY.

~Cliche's that are NOT cliche's. And no Mary-Sue's and whatever else. So, even though your story has "Power Crystals" they aren't the Cliche Power Crystals. So I love them. And Off-White's, it's "Red and Blue"/"Good and Evil" (Yin Yang) type thing is cliche, but the meaning to the cliche and the things that tag along with it make it more than interesting.

~Something new around every corner. You know you have found a good comic where, after a couple weeks, or months (depending on the usual put-out time for the next page) you start wondering, "Where'd it go?"; you know you've found a good one. Something that keeps you going back- and even something that makes you reread the comic because of a crucial detail you didn't know was crucial.

~A simple list of what I consider good comics: Yours, OF COURSE; Off-White; Strays (or Stray, can't remember- it's off of DA though); BBA; and the two Moonsong-wolf has out. Can't remember those names. And I like mine. <.< But no one else knows mine, lol.

And basically, everyone else has said anything I would add. Like panels; text; art; ability; keeping the story fresh; keep going; etc.
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AmetAlias Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I like fantasy and animals, personally. I don't mind messy art that much, but if it's too much to bear, I'm off.
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Randomonium09 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I like comics with unique (or at least interesting) aesthetics and style, both in the visuals and the writing. If there are clichés in there, they need to be portrayed in an interesting or new way to keep my attention. (Which I guess could mean they'd no longer be clichés. I make a distinction there somewhere, but I can't come up with a half-decent way to put it in words.) Good technical ability also draws me in, by which I mean skillfully done art and a good grasp of spelling and grammar. And of course, a good, original story and interesting, original characters.

What I don't like to see in comics is simply the absence of what I do like. Unoriginal aesthetics and styles, clichés with nothing to redeem them, lackluster art, spelling, or grammar, boring or rehashed stories, uninteresting or borrowed characters... basically everything from the list of what I like, but reversed.

Of course, a lot of that is subjective, so I guess I could go into specific themes a bit.

A story about war or somehow related to war is a really easy go-to story solution, or at least it seems like one. I should know; almost every story I've ever written has included war in some way. But since so many people make a beeline for the war story, there are a lot of really, really bad war stories out there. They're the ones that feature war at the forefront just for the sake of there being a war, and the war becomes the only conflict in the story. It doesn't mean anything. The war stories that I like use the war as a tool to explore the characters, or make the war a side effect of other conflicts, or even keep the war on the sidelines, still relevant but almost entirely out of view. The last couple of Harry Potter books took that last route, now that I think about it.

Another thing that people always seem to want to write is a story about a good guy underdog facing a massively powerful ultimate evil. I've yet to see anything good come out of this theme. (Sadly, the writers for Starcraft 2 took this route. That was a really big disappointment.) It's especially bad when, as is the case in Starcraft 2, the main character(s) are the only people in the world who are aware of this ultimate evil, or when the ultimate evil has been dormant for ages and everyone assumes it's just a myth. Or, as is also the case in Starcraft 2, it becomes evident halfway through the story that the "bad guys" are really being controlled by the ultimate evil, that the "bad guys" are really just misunderstood, and the true enemy was acting through them. Bullshit, I say.

I know Starcraft 2 isn't a comic, but that gripe is universal to any medium that can tell a story.

Romance in general doesn't really interest me, unless it's really well done. But it especially turns me off when there's any kind of love triangle (or quadrilateral, or pentagon, or any other kind of polygon) involved, or when either or both of the two mains are completely obsessed with the other, or when they have absolutely no synergy. (All of those things I've seen happen in real life, by the way. They irritate me there, too.) However, if a story (implicitly) made comment on something like that rather than consisting solely of it, it would become a hell of a lot more interesting for me.

This one is probably just be because I'm a nerd, but it irritates me a little bit (not enough to make me stop reading) when there's a fantasy language involved that consists solely of weird symbols or words with little to no thought behind them. But then here I am sitting at my computer crafting complete grammars and storied writing systems and culturally influenced lexicons and everything, so I guess I would be biased.

I could come up with more if I thought about it, but I've been sitting here for a while, and I covered the two major ones. (The war story and the ultimate evil, just in case that wasn't clear.)

Thanks for asking this, by the way. It got me thinking about my own comic (still very much in the works) objectively and made me realize exactly how staggeringly much of it I would have instantly condemned as utter crap if it was anyone else's work. Back to the drawing board!

Long comment is long. :O
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sparkpaw Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
"love triangle (or quadrilateral, or pentagon, or any other kind of polygon)"

BAHAHA. Sorry, but I found your comment rather nice. Especially since- like you, I am in the process (still very early stages) or making my own comic. However, I am taking my time because I am trying to learn how to draw my subjects- because I do agree highly with you- bad art, even a good- or great- story line, can be a comic killer. :/
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Randomonium09 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Derp, there I am going on about good grammar and I manage to screw up a sentence while I'm at it.

"This one is probably just be because I'm a nerd..."
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Scopimera Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Beyond the regular 'good art, good story,' I also favor a comic with documents detailing the setting.
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CrazyWriter10 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
I like a lot of fantasy themes with animals....but that's just me. :3 I also like to see some cool powers or use of the elements in most comics, but they aren't necessary for me to enjoy a comic, and it MUST have a good story line. The art doesn't have to be perfect, the story line just needs to be good. What I don't like is really tiny font that you can barely make out, even if you enlarge it. I also don't like to read something without a good story line.
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windwingdark Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Student Writer
I'll sit and read varying levels of art, although good art like your own is definitely a plus side. I don't really care much about the fonts, but if you use Papyrus, you lose instant cool points. The biggest turn off for me is a Mary-sue lead female. Mary-sue males are comic relief, but unless the Mary-sue female is over the top, then she's nothing but constant annoyance. The second the lead male falls in love with her despite her lack of believable faults, I close my browser and never look at that comic again.
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LicianDragon Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
A clean, easy to understand art style is what draws me in first. I don't mind speech bubbles but if they don't exist the text should be easy to read(meaning I shouldn't have to till my laptop screen back to see it).
The biggest turnoff for me is a confusing flow between the panels. I hate it when I can't tell in which order I'm supposed to read them in and when I'm going back and forth reading and re-reading I lose interest.
I like clean vector style art in comics with realistic, neat shading but more detailed comics are appreciated. Another major turnoff for me is when the storyline deviates to much from the plotline and when the comic is rarely updated.
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DarkestRealms11 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Student
I don't like it when I read one page in a comic and have to wait forever to read the next one. Also if a comic or book slows down enough I will just get bored with it and stop reading.
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Phantazmas Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011
I'll read something that can draw me in. Depending on the style, it can be pretty much anything. However, I love the promise of an adventure or danger, perhaps a little tragedy and romance added in on the side. If the author can somehow do all that and relate it to real life at the same time, I'm pretty set to not put the book or comic down.

The one thing that really bothers me and will put me off reading something is when it gets boring. I have a really hard time forcing myself through the dull parts of a story. I have two others that don't happen as frequently, though. When it starts getting repetitive (repeating itself over and over in different ways without any real change in the style or characters), and when the author seems to stop trying. I've dropped a few stories because they started out good, then the author started throwing stuff on the page without taking the characters into much account.
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Plaguedog Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011   Digital Artist
*shifty eyes* my biggest pet peeve is super slow updates. <--- Says the girl who didn't post a single page for a year, yikes.

I suppose it's not that I hate a slow update pace, it's just that I am really impressed by people who update on time.
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